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Сообщение было отмечено как решение РешениеНачну с того что 32 битные винды видят 3,2 Г памяти (ОЗУ) 64 битные видят 4 Г и более + 64 битность дает прирост по скорости от 40% и более ( возможно некоторые, старые проги под 32 битные системы могут работать несколько медленнее, но это мало вероятно и это ничто по сравнению с общим приростом.Таким образом имеем несомненные преимущества 64 битных операционок. хр сп2 32 бит и ворд 2003 сп3 открывали его в 5 (засекал) а то и 10 ( далее по ощущении времени чисто субъективно) раз быстрее , чем w7 х64 бит (как pre SP1 так и без него) и ворд 2010, при этом последний его еще и преобразовывал некоторое время и тупил при открытии картинок в доке. Такого результата я конечно ну никак не ожидал при всех официальных хвальбах семерке.
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I’ve been really struck over the past few days by the difference in approaches between the Windows 7 RC1 and Vista SP2 releases. Windows 7 beta and RC1 have been handled much like the new Obama administration, emphasizing transparency and quickly addressing issues. We received plenty of notice there would be at least one Windows 7 RC and I fully expect the RC1 download to be available on TechNet and MSDN tomorrow as Microsoft promised.
Microsoft was very responsive during the Windows 7 beta, much more so than we’ve seen with any other Microsoft product beta. Examples include quickly making changes to planned UAC defaults when many users and bloggers balked at the decrease level of security, committing to resolving the vulnerability where unauthorized programs or scripts could change UAC settings without the user’s knowledge, increasing the capacity of the beta download servers and extending the download time period when demand outstripped the expected demand for the Windows 7 public beta.
On the other hand, the Vista SP2 release is being handled very differently. The Vista SP2 (and Windows Server SP2) beta just concluded but no specifics have been released about when all of us will get the official bits. Vista SP2 is being shushed away to the OEMs, leaving us to wonder when SP2 will show up, ready for download. (You can find out what’s in SP2 if you like by checking here.)
Now, it’s certainly true that Vista and Windows 7 are at much different places in their respective product lifecycles, but even so, there seems to be a pretty significant difference in approaches between the two.
The Windows 7 releases appears to be marching to a new drummer, at least one that I hope Microsoft will continue to follow. Vista’s following the old tried and true (and slow) Microsoft release process. Hopefully the way Microsoft has handled bringing out Windows 7 isn’t just a one time fluke, but a sign of good things to come. If you’re listening, Microsoft, the Windows 7 beta and RC approach has been refreshing and delivered much more value. Please keep it going.
It’s been very a nice change knowing what’s happening in the release process (at least as much as you can) and then to be pleasantly surprised by the quality of what Microsoft’s delivered in the Windows 7 beta and updates.
Right now I’m in the final stages of product development and then launch of a new software product for one of my clients. There are a lot of good experiences in the Windows 7 release process I’ll gladly apply to my own future product releases.
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Actually I’M now in a bit of a quandary
Vista SP2 improves Vista by quite a lot (even though it itself is only in RC1 stage).
Could be some interesting politics going on at Microsoft between Vista Development and W7 teams. — Bit of competition always a good idea.
Maybe Vist will be going out with a final flourish — however probably too late to save the day — depends now very much on pricing as Vista SP2 isn’t the dog the original vista was.
Dilemma also for hardware manufactureres — unless there is 100% device driver compatability this will cause more griefs at W7 final release time.
If you want to try the public beta of VISTA SP2 — RC1 it’s here (proper public Microsoft site — NOT a torrent etc).
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Cheers
Jimbo
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It seems like you’re discussing the dynamics between Windows Vista SP2 and the upcoming Windows 7 release, highlighting potential improvements in Vista SP2. Here are a few points based on your post: 1. Improvements with Vista SP2 RC1: It’s great to hear that Vista SP2 appears to bring significant enhancements to Windows Vista. This could potentially address some of the issues faced by users of the original Vista release. 2. Competition between Vista and Windows 7: The competition and collaboration between the Vista and Windows 7 development teams could indeed lead to better products for users. Healthy competition often drives innovation. 3. Potential Impact on Vista’s Reception: Despite the improvements in Vista SP2, the timing of its release might affect its reception. Windows 7’s impending launch might overshadow any late improvements to Vista. 4. Hardware Manufacturers’ Dilemma: The compatibility of device drivers is crucial for a smooth transition to Windows 7. Any discrepancies in driver compatibility could lead to issues during the Windows 7 release. 5. Public Beta of Vista SP2 RC1: Providing a link to the public beta of Vista SP2 RC1 is a helpful resource for users interested in testing out the upcoming updates. Given the context of your post, it appears to be discussing the developments and implications of Windows Vista SP2 RC1 and its relationship with the upcoming Windows 7 release.
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Hello,
On net I found that some claim that vista sp2 and windows 7 are not so different in speed,…
I have never used vista, so I wouldn’t really know. Anyone who used both?
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Have used both. personally found win7 to be much faster without absolutely any tweaking. sp2 now, had to wring it through a strainer but after that it came pretty close
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Thanks! That is good to know.
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Just one reason to use Windows 7 and not Vista SP2 is the fact that Windows 7 is the latest OS.
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I’m not really planning on using it.
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There’s a lot of hype behind stuff like the iPhone, or Windows 7 or whatever, but SP2 while not perfect and neither is Win7, its definitely NOT worth the extra money when you consider you can do more and faster stuff with Linux Mint or Ubuntu Linux.
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You mean less stuff with Linux?
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I have used Vista on my brother’s laptop for a few hours and visually at least, Win 7 is a minor improvement from vista but a huge improvement from xp (my older OS). My brother is reluctant to shift to Win 7 because he says that vista’s latest service packs have made it more stable. He also said that vista 32 bit now detects and uses all 4gb of ram installed in this laptop.
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I think Vista got a bum rap — I stopped using XP when Vista came out and couldn’t go back. Vista is slow to boot and some copy operations are slower but these are the main disadvantages — well OK UAC in Vista is a pain but even M$ admit it is more secure than 7s default UAC.
I’ve started dual booting Vista again, mainly because no-one would buy the genuine copy I tried to sell on ebaY — that’s $120 I’ll never see again but it was 3 or more years ago — I never activated it but modded the BIOS of my Asus A8n-32-SLI which has since decided it doesn’t want to post anymore.
Anyway there are some nice visual things in Vista that were stripped out of 7. I now think it is at least 80 — 90 % as good as 7 PROVIDING you run the 64 bit version with at least 4 GB RAM.
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Can you share how wring it?
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Fiat Punto vs VV Golf
Same size, they just feel a «bit» different
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Depends on your machine and support: my Aspire 5920G has neither the drivers nor the proggies properly sorted for W7 and Vista SP2 gives full functionality [from full keyboard to Synaptic’s — and onwards — drivers, then Acer’s apps etc.]
I went back to Vista SP2 [64b, like W7, both Ultimate v.] and the machine is now behaving properly, in some ways better than W7, which is here for too short a period, IMHO… Many bugs and annoying things in it still…
Maybe when they take our objections and sort it out… W7 is better visually and fairly good but for the above shortcomings…..
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Btw, tweak it with TuneUp Utils or Vista Manager [UAC to «off» etc.] and it will be faster etc.
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Exactly my point of view!
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You might now have the drivers on manufacturer site, but if you look elsewhere all the drivers are available for Seven (inc ALMOST ALWAYS x64)
Ofcourse if your laptop is so obscure that would not work under seven, then there is no really a question, is it?sebus
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It’s not quite as easy as that, from my experience…
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If i am not wrong, Windows 7 can use Windows Vista drivers too.
Windows 7 uses WDDM 1.1 for their drivers, if i am not wrong, WDDM 1.1 is made to reduce the amount of ram been use.
WDDM 1.0 drivers is still usable on Windows 7.I am using Windows 7 with PC build on Aug 2003.
My sound card using Realtek AC97 ALC650
ATi Radeon 9600
Asus P4SD-LA (Intel 865PE chipset)
Intel Pentium 4 3.2eGHz Presscot 800FSB
1GB DDR1 400MHz X2 (dual Channel).All this parts do not have WDDM 1.1 drivers but is working well with Vista Driver.
My newer PC with:
GIGABTYE GA-MA790GP-DS4H (AMD790GX chipset + ATi SB750).
The AHCI driver AMD website did not make WDDM 1.1 for windows 7. I use Windows Vista WDDM 1.1 drivers and it is working very stable. -
Sadly, it doesn’t work in my machine.
It was discriminating when Vista and Vista SP1 drivers were the choices to make.
And it does discriminate between Vista and W7 now…
I tried all sorts and it just doesn’t work.
For starters, with W7 setup keyboard looses functionality [ALT & ALT GR + € & similar keys, the lower right hand corner extra keys not working etc.]. I haven’t seen a different driver for it to fix it.
I had to go back for Synaptic drivers to make it fully functional. It just wouldn’t install under W7 and even the new one for Vista didn’t work, so go figure…
For some other devices it was a similar story.
The same goes for my wife’s 5935G under W7. I still can’t get 3 devices to be «recognised», i.e. the Win driver installer to do its job, even when I allow it to go to the web…
It just tells you the driver is incompatible and aborts or goes all the way, only to say at the end «unsuccessful» [Synaptics, for instance]…
Or maybe I just don’t know how to do it properly?
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I’m seriously considering going back to Vista SP2.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Windows 7, and I think it has serious potential to be the «it» hit that Microsoft has been waiting for. All the beauty of Vista, with the reliability and large support for drivers, software, and devices, that of XP…makes 7 a real winner in my book.
Here’s the problem…
I bought my laptop during the latter half of the XP to Vista change over (the period in time when you wanted XP, but couldn’t find it because Vista was just everywhere) and you can tell (I mean literally see a disparity) between Windows versions on this computer.
I tried XP, and it was stable…for a while, but had a hard time with compatibility with Toshiba’s branded software (some of which, is necessary for full functionality…), my MCE remote (found a work around, but it took me close to four hours to get it right.), and it was just so outdated.
I am currently running 7, and it gave me a higher index score (3.3 compared to Vista’s 3.1 and sometimes 2.9) which at first impressed me and made me ooh and ahh. Then, I noticed some things just weren’t right, some things didn’t operate as they should.
Yet, when Vista SP2 was installed and all updates were in place, everything (and I mean everything) worked. It was just so slow, and updating took forever and a day. (So glad they streamlined that in 7!) So I thought I’d give 7 a try.
Well, it is wonderful, but only if you have the right hardware. I have an ATi Radeon X1200 (DX9, which makes it a legacy device) and it does not work correctly in Windows 7. AMD/ATi said that it is not supported under 7, but may still work. Well…yes and no. When you use the WDM drivers, most of the functionality is stripped away, completely. If you use the Vista drivers (and run them in compatibility mode) you get full functionality back, but it will only allow you to upgrade to a certain level of driver before the problems start again. (And even when it’s correctly working, something’s just not working right. This is the second time it’s done this, too.)
Sadly, my graphics and motherboard are all one piece and cannot be upgraded, and they’re not 100% on the ball when it comes to 7, but work beautifully in Vista. So…it looks like I’m going back to Vista. Fortunately, my HTPC is brand new and has 7 on it, so it’s not a total wash.
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