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NVIDIA Windows Kernel Module Driver high latency causing in game microstutter.
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Specs: ASUS ROG B450F Gaming II
Zotac RTX 3070
Ryzen 3600x
16gb corsair vengeance white 3200mhz
500gb Nvme m.2 WD black
2tb WD Hard Drive
750 watt PSU
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CONCLUSION
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Your system appears to be suitable for handling real-time audio and other tasks without dropouts.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:02:14 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.
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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: DESKTOP-ITVKR7D
OS version: Windows 10, 10.0, version 2009, build: 19042 (x64)
Hardware: System Product Name, System manufacturer
CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core Processor
Logical processors: 12
Processor groups: 1
RAM: 16294 MB total
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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed: 380 MHz
Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.
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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes
the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.
Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 796.10
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 7.373617
Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 791.90
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 3.786315
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REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.
Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 117.050
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: HDAudBus.sys — High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation
Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0.005037
Driver with highest ISR total time: Wdf01000.sys — Kernel Mode Driver Framework Runtime, Microsoft Corporation
Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0.007531
ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 105312
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0
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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.
Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 947.220
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: nvlddmkm.sys — NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 461.40 , NVIDIA Corporation
Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0.556803
Driver with highest DPC total execution time: ndis.sys — Network Driver Interface Specification (NDIS), Microsoft Corporation
Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0.848527
DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 481015
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs): 12199
DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0
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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires
reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.
NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see
which programs were hit.
Process with highest pagefault count: msmpeng.exe
Total number of hard pagefaults 3006
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 1077
Number of processes hit: 58
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PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 13.877046
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 94.790
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 0.001418
CPU 0 ISR count: 439
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 947.220
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 5.532492
CPU 0 DPC count: 155462
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 10.036351
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 80.410
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0.001399
CPU 1 ISR count: 1022
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 883.020
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 3.329040
CPU 1 DPC count: 112728
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 8.029588
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 85.170
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0.008390
CPU 2 ISR count: 2299
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 914.610
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 2.778771
CPU 2 DPC count: 67206
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2.713610
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 103.330
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0.018220
CPU 3 ISR count: 17726
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 572.630
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0.736754
CPU 3 DPC count: 32188
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2.126310
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 106.160
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0.030711
CPU 4 ISR count: 17578
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 490.790
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0.564582
CPU 4 DPC count: 28795
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1.290346
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 117.050
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0.019130
CPU 5 ISR count: 10471
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 196.340
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0.268027
CPU 5 DPC count: 16862
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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0.817404
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 108.40
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0.009544
CPU 6 ISR count: 2585
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 164.870
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0.087005
CPU 6 DPC count: 12797
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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0.760451
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 8.870
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0.000302
CPU 7 ISR count: 52
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 110.340
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0.026813
CPU 7 DPC count: 6535
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CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0.979627
CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs): 102.610
CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s): 0.020786
CPU 8 ISR count: 37079
CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs): 123.650
CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s): 0.064216
CPU 8 DPC count: 14415
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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0.803844
CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs): 5.090
CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s): 0.001536
CPU 9 ISR count: 2253
CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs): 162.520
CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s): 0.049710
CPU 9 DPC count: 9496
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CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0.950035
CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs): 93.940
CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s): 0.003605
CPU 10 ISR count: 4844
CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs): 128.990
CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s): 0.091793
CPU 10 DPC count: 18429
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CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1.026593
CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs): 108.970
CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s): 0.006137
CPU 11 ISR count: 8964
CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs): 132.330
CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s): 0.124589
CPU 11 DPC count: 18301
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Heres what it says.
C:\WINDOWS\system32>xperf -on DiagEasy
C:\WINDOWS\system32>xperf -d «%userprofile%\Desktop\trace.etl»
xperf: error: Merge ETL: The system cannot find the path specified. (0x3).
And I’ve attatched a screenshot of what I did for the first step of setting the location.
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Hey there, sorry to bother but is there a fix to the instructions yet?
Sorry about the delay; I ended up having my first ICU/hospital stay of my life this weekend but should be headed home today. I will see if I can get someone else to get you interim instructions until I can take a closer look later this week and update the overall instructions.
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Instructions are correct, using xperf.
Alternative commands, because it seems xperf is almost deprecated, COULD be (experimenting new commands — you must use only one of them):
wpr -start audio.verbose
wpr -start video.verbose
wpr -start network.verboseA combination of them:
wpr -start audio.verbose -start video.verbose -start audio.verboseTo stop the trace (use only one command; the appropriate one in base of the one you have chosen previously):
wpr -stop "%userprofile%\desktop\WPR-audio-trace.etl"
wpr -stop "%userprofile%\desktop\WPR-video-trace.etl"
wpr -stop "%userprofile%\desktop\WPR-network-trace.etl"
wpr -stop "%userprofile%\desktop\WPR-audio-video-network-trace.etl"
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Speccy Link
Google Drive Link to trace.etl and SysnativeFileCollectionApp.zip
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You can also include the steps you tried.
Constant microstuttering in every single thing I do. The ufotest online stutters, games all microstutter, videos microstutter, dragging windows, basically everything. I’ve tried reinstalling multiple times and actually replacing RAM, GPU, and MOBO. Started around 5-6 months ago.
- OS ? (Windows 10, 8.1, 8, 7, Vista)
Win 10 Education
- x86 (32bit) or x64 (64bit)?
x64
- What was original installed OS on system?
Windows 10 Default
- Is the OS an OEM version (came pre-installed on system) or full retail version (YOU purchased it from retailer)?
Installed it myself and got a key from my school.
- Age of system? (hardware)
I’ve switched out a lot of parts so its different than what it was in like 2016. I’d say average age of parts is newer than 1 year.
- Age of OS installation?
2 weeks
- Have you re-installed the OS?
Yes, multiple times to try to fix the stutter issue.
- System Manufacturer?
Custom built by me.
- Laptop or Desktop?
Desktop
- MotherBoard — (if NOT a laptop)
ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II
- CPU
Ryzen 3600x
- RAM (brand, EXACT model, what slots are you using?)
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz C16 LED Desktop Memory — White, DIMM A2 B2
- Video Card
Zotac RTX 3070 OC
- Power Supply — brand & wattage (if laptop, skip this one)
Corsair CX Series 750 Watt (2017) 80 Plus Bronze Certified Non-Modular Power Supply (CP-9020123-NA) (Closest one I could find. I can’t find documentation for the PSU lol. If its really important I will take it out of my case and find the actual product number)
- Is driver verifier enabled or disabled?
I don’t believe so. I’ve never actually ran or used it.
- What security software are you using? (Firewall, antivirus, antimalware, antispyware, and so forth)
Only Windows Defender
- Are you using proxy, vpn, ipfilters or similar software?
Yes I’m using Windscribe.
- Are you using Disk Image tools? (like daemon tools, alcohol 52% or 120%, virtual CloneDrive, roxio software)
No I am not.
- Are you currently under/overclocking? Are there overclocking software installed on your system?
No everything is running stock. I’m running MSI afterburner for frametime monitoring, Asus Armory, and NZXT CAM.
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Instructions are correct, using xperf.
One issue with the instructions that I found is that %userprofile%\Desktop does not exist on my system. I suspect they made the public desktop folder everyone’s desktop folder with a recent Windows upgrade, and/or the file storage aspect of it was moved into OneDrive for users who chose to use OneDrive as a backup solution.
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AMD Chipset Driver V2.11.26.106 For Windows 10 64-bit.
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Yep Everything is up to date in terms of chipset drivers. I also ended up looking over the stuff myself and replacing my network adapter. Theres no issue in terms of the ndis.sys drivers now.
Nice investigating. Are you still seeing issues with the Nvidia causing stuttering? Have you tried different drivers to see if any provide more stable framerates?
It’s rarer than it used to be, but you may also want to contact AMD/Nvidia to see if they know of any conflict between the hardware setup with your motherboard and display card. Even if there are no conflicts, they may be able to point you to other possible solutions.
You also mentioned this started approximately four months ago. Were there any software or hardware updates that you recall performing before the issues began?
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Dust can damage or degrade contacts and/or circuitry. Just FYI, never use a vacuum to clean dust from computers. The static a vacuum builds up can also damage peripherals. Compressed air at low pressure is safest for clearing dust.
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EDIT:
You may also find the following of interest: RTX 3070 Stutter
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I will definitely take a look.I haven’t tried taking out the GPU and running HDMI from mobo, but I don’t think I can do that with my Ryzen CPU. I’ll give it a try when I can as I’m away from my Rig for the week.
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1. Ликбез по прерываниям. Все прерывания делятся по следующим приоритетам: 2. Ссылки. https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/windows-line-based-vs-message-signaled-based-interrupts-msi-tool.378044/ 3. Борьба с прерываниями. https://github.com/denis-g/windows10-latency-optimization Позднее дополню каждый раздел. SMI-прерывания зависят от BIOS/UEFI и оборудования. Про прерывания на уровне ядра и пользователя в windows. В Windows применяется: При этом: Наш пользовательский процесс может иметь следующие приоритеты: Итоговый приоритет потока — это сумма приоритетов процесса и потока. Программы для оценки прерываний: ETW xperf WPA — родной софт от microsoft Настройка прерываний https://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/Download-Intelligent-standby-list-cleaner-ISLC-1034 Борьба с прерываниями. Первое и самое главное. Для 120 Гц: Снизить частоту опроса мыши до 125Гц. Главные правила для таймеров: useplatformclock disables TSC and uses the platform source clock instead (HPET or PMT). PMT is used when HPET is disabled in BIOS. При этом возможны разные комбинации таймеров. TSC + TSC without desync: bcdedit /set useplatformtick no (отключаем RTC и включаем TSC для тиков) Обсуждение проблем ОС и оборудования: задержка реакции системы (latency), микроcтаттер, инпутлаг, фризы. Осуществлять мониторинг программой Latency Monitor нужно в течение 1 минуты, в состоянии простоя системы т.е. без дисковой, сетевой активности, и любой другой, с выключенным ав и приложениями в трее и автозагрузке, Презентация NVIDIA (на англ.) о проблемах статтеров, фризов и лагов (терминология, описание и причины возникновения)
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Привет. BIOS сброшен в дефолт, вручную не изменено ничего, версия 5851 (последняя от ASUS). Винда — десятка корпоративная 21H1 (не сборка) из образа с обновлениями от июня 2021, не изменены никакие настройки (разве что убрана галочка с повышенной точности указателя мыши), не удалено ничего, из драйверов установлен только графический 471.22 без geforce experience (чистая установка), никакие другие драйверы не ставил, так что стоит только то, что было встроено в винду. В предыдущий раз пробовал ставить все самые новые драйверы, но ничего это не исправило, потому сейчас поставил только видео. Показатели LatencyMon (снято во время работы CS:GO) какие-то слишком пугающие. Interrupt to user process latency Код: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 2988,40 Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 2985,0 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 259,614807 Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,266056 Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,269609 ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 760454 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 6000,838297 Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,122476 Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,189475 DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 1577122 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit. Process with highest pagefault count: steamservice.exe Total number of hard pagefaults 877 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Interrupt to DPC latency Код: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 4408,0 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 263,462288 Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,360598 Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,365003 ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 707634 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 6007,821876 Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,170995 Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,254326 DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 1458428 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit. Process with highest pagefault count: steam.exe Total number of hard pagefaults 41 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Kernel timer latency Код: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest measured kernel timer latency (µs): 26668,10 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 291,035903 Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,363446 Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,367381 ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 1001708 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 5995,026997 Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,174894 Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,263101 DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 1984892 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. 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Y0! писал(а): оказатели LatencyMon (снято во время работы CS:GO) какие-то слишком пугающие. Показатели надо снимать в простое. FAQ читал? |
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В msconfig была снята галочка с элементов автозагрузки, скрыты службы Майкрософт и отключены все прочие службы, сразу после загрузки рабочего стола был запущен последний LatencyMon. Проблема проявляется в микрофризах в CS:GO, BFV, некоторые из них, возможно, появляются перед проигрыванием любых внутриигровых звуков. Тестирование проводилось как с разнообразными твиками (которые могут помочь при первом запуске после их применения, но потом всё возвращается), так и на девственно чистой корпоративной десятке, драйверы — самые-самые новые, пробовал не ставить драйвер аудио, мыши, видеодрайвер всегда ставится без GeForce Experience, как в одиночку, так и в сочетании с комплектным HD аудиодрайвером, USBC и PhysX. Пробовал разные USB порты. Около года назад значительно уменьшить количество микрофризов помогала неустановка драйвера мыши, но сейчас и это ничего не меняет. |
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Y0! писал(а): Проблема проявляется в микрофризах в CS:GO, BFV, некоторые из них, возможно, появляются перед проигрыванием любых внутриигровых звуков. По скринам трудно сказать в чем у тебя проблема. Драйверы мыши? Без них никак? И что за драйверы VMware в системе? Винда точно свежеустановлена? |
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Dimonas можно и без драйвера мыши, вот сейчас его нет, но это ничего к лучшему не меняет. Возможно, это аппаратная проблема — винда, на которую из дров я поставил только видео, а также Steam (для тестирования фризов), умудрилась упасть в BSOD 1000007e (ntfs.sys), когда Steam скачивал CS:GO. В системе два диска — 860 evo (винда и всё, что на неё установлено) и обычный винчестер 7200 об., первый вчера сканировал samsung magician’ом, второй — chkdsk /f /r, ошибок не найдено. |
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так то криминала не видно, но можешь поэкспериментить с переводом в msi режим видюхи и аудио. ребутаться ток надо при каждом применении + проверять применилось ли |
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BOBKOC один из твиков заключался в том, чтобы всё перевести в msi и назначить высокий приоритет всему, кроме AMD PSP и сетевухи. Также прерывания видеокарты вешал на последние два потока. Также менял настройки HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile (SystemResponsiveness dword:00000000, Scheduling Category & SFIO Priority — high, Priority dword:00000006) и HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\PriorityControl (Win32PrioritySeparation dword:00000006). Также ставил системный таймер в 0,5 мс и ставил автоочищение standby list (программой ISLC). Всё это вместе могло добавить до 9% средних fps в CS:GO, но фризы полностью не исчезают. После этих твиков может при первом запуске чувствоваться очень низкая задержка мыши, но это почему-то быстро пропадает и потом может случайным образом снова проявляться, закономерности не замечено. |
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Y0! Таймеры и приоритеты прерываний можно не крутить было. По моим наблюдениям это мало что дает в играх. А вот с фризами системы в первую очередь надо проверять связку процессор-память. Попробовать обновить биос материнки до последней версии с новой AGESA, поставить XMP тайминги и CMD 2T для стабильности. Я лично наблюдал ситуацию, когда в CMD 1T все тесты памяти без ошибок, а в PUBG фризы были. Поставил CMD 2T и проблема ушла. |
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Dimonas BIOS, как указывал, самый новый. Пробовал ставить всё в авто и тогда ставится режим 2400 CL19, попробовал прописать то же, что прописывается в D.O.C.P., но с 2T вместо 1T. 2T применилось, но фризит по-прежнему. Сейчас прерывания не изменены, я просто написал то, что тестировал в недалёком прошлом. Интересно, как всё же выявить корень этой проблемы? |
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А что за сборка ПК, БП вот это все, где? |
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Применил частично твики по мануалу — фиг что изменилось… OLD Hunter Привет, снова заполнил. Фиксы отключены. Фризы были с самого начала этой сборки (всё куплено с нуля, кроме мыши, это и помогло выявить первичную проблему, как тогда казалось — неустановка Synapse 2 сводила фризы до самого минимума, но непроизвольное нажатие боковых кнопок всякий раз заставляло вернуться к Synapse и терпеть; потом были попытки разогнать мой «отборный» B-die, о них я писал тут в соответствующей теме, фризов от такого разгона становилось только больше; какое-то время назад фризы мне надоели и я начал писать в техподдержку NVIDIA, на тот момент винда уже была обновлена до 21H1). Техподдержка NVIDIA расписалась в собственном бессилии что-либо продиагностировать — сказали проверить видеокарту в другом компьютере, посоветовали обратиться к разработчику игры (и не важно, что игр две и они вообще разные, как и их разработчики). Что ж, когда выброшу этот комп на помойку и куплю новый — может, исправлю фризы. |
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Y0! Хм, тогда остается только в СЦ обратиться, железо же на гарантии еще? |
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OLD Hunter эта серия БП была в списке рекомендуемых тут в соответствующей теме, возможно, она и сейчас там. |
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Y0! писал(а): сказали & посоветовали а может те win11 установить ради эксперимента + там у Nvidia уже WDM3.0 при дровах 471.22+ |
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Видео бы еще увидеть этих фризов, ну т.е с графиком фреймтайма. Ну у странно что они не во всех играх. На движке фростайбта они есть? Можно скачать что-то по типу бф3 или 4 , да любой бф, можно и более поздние, может и лиц есть. Там есть встроенный график производительности, там график и цпу и ГП, т.е можно точно определить откуда фриз — ЦП или ГП. |
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High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
Discus and support High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver in XBoX on Consoles to solve the problem; Hi, recently my PC has started to run games very poorly. This happened out of no where and ive tried everything I could think of. Usually I run GTA5…
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High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
Hi, recently my PC has started to run games very poorly. This happened out of no where and ive tried everything I could think of. Usually I run GTA5 with 200+ fps but now its running 30-50 fps. This is happening in other games too. I cannot find the problem that is causing this. Ive tried running LatencyMon to see if could find the problem through there.
I found that my «NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver» (nvlddmkm.sys) is running on a very high execution time (μs).Theres not a lot of help to find on the internet about this problem, atleast not anything that seemed to help me out.
All of this happened after I updated to Windows 11. Ive now gone back to Window 10 but the issue is stille there
Ive put the report text below
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CONCLUSION
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Your system seems to be having difficulty handling real-time audio and other tasks. You may experience drop outs, clicks or pops due to buffer underruns. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:02:02 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.
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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: FONDK-NKE9KVSQ5
OS version: Windows 10, 10.0, version 2009, build: 19045 (x64)
Hardware: Z590 AORUS PRO AX, Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
BIOS: F7
CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700F CPU @ 2.90GHz
Logical processors: 16
Processor groups: 1
Processor group size: 16
RAM: 16253 MB total
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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed (WMI): 2904 MHz
Reported CPU speed (registry): 2904 MHz
Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.
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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.
Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 1410,30
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 8,136864
Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 1406,0
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 4,045040
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REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.
Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 164,584022
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: HDAudBus.sys — High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation
Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,004148
Driver with highest ISR total time: HDAudBus.sys — High Definition Audio Bus Driver, Microsoft Corporation
Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,006008
ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 55553
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0
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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.
Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 1925,447314
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: nvlddmkm.sys — NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 527.56 , NVIDIA Corporation
Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,037301
Driver with highest DPC total execution time: dxgkrnl.sys — DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation
Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,141679
DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 222293
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs): 287
DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 19
DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0
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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.
NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.
Process with highest pagefault count: msmpeng.exe
Total number of hard pagefaults 76
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 42
Number of processes hit: 10
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PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 9,122847
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 0 ISR count: 0
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 1925,447314
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 2,067431
CPU 0 DPC count: 178191
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 4,219907
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 164,584022
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0,096688
CPU 1 ISR count: 29134
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 387,669421
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0,628755
CPU 1 DPC count: 31048
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,428248
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 38,253444
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0,004287
CPU 2 ISR count: 1053
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 82,067493
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 0,030597
CPU 2 DPC count: 2532
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,152199
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 3 ISR count: 0
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 94,108815
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0,003213
CPU 3 DPC count: 662
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,237972
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR count: 0
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 78,214532
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001330
CPU 4 DPC count: 294
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,271155
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR count: 0
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 44,763085
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001020
CPU 5 DPC count: 296
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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,547226
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR count: 0
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 95,733127
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001341
CPU 6 DPC count: 384
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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,659259
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR count: 0
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 53,157025
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0,003204
CPU 7 DPC count: 936
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CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,973909
CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR count: 0
CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs): 79,880510
CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s): 0,001380
CPU 8 DPC count: 375
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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,605381
CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR count: 0
CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs): 68,033058
CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s): 0,006563
CPU 9 DPC count: 1376
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CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,652097
CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR count: 0
CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs): 42,731749
CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000606
CPU 10 DPC count: 243
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CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,659201
CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR count: 0
CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs): 36,504132
CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s): 0,000719
CPU 11 DPC count: 241
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CPU 12 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,763088
CPU 12 ISR highest execution time (µs): 44,046832
CPU 12 ISR total execution time (s): 0,016640
CPU 12 ISR count: 25366
CPU 12 DPC highest execution time (µs): 80,166667
CPU 12 DPC total execution time (s): 0,009128
CPU 12 DPC count: 2615
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CPU 13 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,520604
CPU 13 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 13 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 13 ISR count: 0
CPU 13 DPC highest execution time (µs): 67,975895
CPU 13 DPC total execution time (s): 0,003542
CPU 13 DPC count: 774
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CPU 14 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,968114
CPU 14 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 14 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 14 ISR count: 0
CPU 14 DPC highest execution time (µs): 73,191116
CPU 14 DPC total execution time (s): 0,007072
CPU 14 DPC count: 1444
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CPU 15 Interrupt cycle time (s): 0,958771
CPU 15 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 15 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 15 ISR count: 0
CPU 15 DPC highest execution time (µs): 77,886364
CPU 15 DPC total execution time (s): 0,007476
CPU 15 DPC count: 1188
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High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
hi i contacted my pc provider and they fixed it for me, the cpu cooler didnt work and the cpu was overheating
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High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
1. download the updated chipset drivers from intel for windows 11
2. use ddu in safe mode to remove the graphics driver and redownload the latest version and install, then restart the pc.
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High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
You need to contact Nvidia or your hardware partner that made your card with these issues, they are the ones who can solve it.
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High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
Display Driver Uninstaller Download version 18.0.5.9 (guru3d.com)
The site above is the one you want
it will completely remove all of the nvidia drivers and fully flush it out then you can install it from scratch.
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High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
Can you tell me what DDU is?
High Latency on NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver
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Note: This post summarizes the entire thread so you do not have to read over 700 replies!
UPDATE (AUGUST 11TH, 2023)
You are probably reading this because you used LatencyMon and it revealed an issue in the Nvidia graphics driver. Everything you need to know is contained in this post, so keep reading. This thread started as an IRQ conflict, but evolved as we learned more, and eventually resulted in the discovery of several bugs causing high latency, which reveals itself in the form of stutters, freezes, crashing, and audio problems.
After months of research and testing, this thread prompted Nvidia and Microsoft to finally acknowledge these issues, which have plagued gamers and audio enthusiasts for many years. This thread also resulted in the creation of a guide that helps people optimize their computers for lower latency. It is important that we make a distinction here because half of these Deferred Procedure Call (DPC) issues are due to Nvidia and Microsoft bugs, while the other half come from computers that need optimizing.
The purpose of this thread was to identify the cause of the malfunctioning nvlddmkm.sys driver and find a tweak to mitigate it. While there were no reliable fixes discovered, Nvidia later added it to their open issues tracker, so we then waited for their response. Several updates were released to fix various bugs, and then an update specifically for the 3xxx series (Ampere architecture) was included because those cards had additional issues that were making the latency even worse. These fixes are included in drivers dated July 18th, 2023 or newer, and while legacy cards still receive security updates, it is unlikely they will get any other fixes, such as those related to DPC latency.
Other problems affecting Nvidia were bugs in the Desktop Window Manager (DWM) and Timeout Detection and Recovery (TDR) features. Microsoft has several preview fixes (link1, link2, link3, link4) for these, but it may be a while before they are available to everyone, and additional updates might be needed after the public has a chance to provide feedback. If the updates are finalized in time, they will be included in the ISO images (link5, link6) that Microsoft posts near the end of each year, and the best advice would be to do a clean install of Windows using those updated builds, and the latest Nvidia driver. Only Windows 10 and 11 will be receiving these updates.
For all other DPC issues, solutions have existed forever in the form of tweaking a computer for more performance. The Gaming Lounge (link7) has a huge list of important information regarding this. The takeaway here is to optimize, which means learning how to cleanly install the operating system, properly installing drivers and firmware, adjusting the BIOS for low latency, and using NTLite to slim down Windows.
Hopefully the Nvidia driver will be fully resolved by the start of 2024, but if the issues persist then all we can do is encourage everyone to submit support tickets to Nvidia and the Microsoft Feedback Hub, contact computer and gaming sites to have them write articles about it, and go to social media to continually remind these companies of the problem until it is addressed.
ORIGINAL POST (JULY 15TH, 2022)
LatencyMon reveals that nvlddmkm.sys (Nvidia Graphics driver kernel) has DPC latency spikes up to 800 microseconds fairly frequently. This is an extremely common issue that can be found all over Google, but I have not come across any solutions, except for a nonsensical one.
According to a post at LinusTechTips forum (link) this is happening because the graphics card is sharing an IRQ with a problematic device. On my computer, msinfo32.exe says the graphics card is sharing IRQ 16 with a motherboard USB host controller.
The solution is to force the IRQ to be reassigned, but the steps are extremely clunky. There has to be a better way than this? I already have an idea in mind that I will test tomorrow, where I will go into my BIOS and disable USB ports until I find the ones tied to this controller, and then move hardware around and reinstall Windows. This seems better than doing the steps listed in the solution, but may not help.
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Hi there, im currently having huge issues with DPC Latency on my computer making it almost impossible to play games without my sound cracking and poping and the game running slow
ive downloaded the tool DPC Latency Checker and i run it 100% of the time im on my pc to monitor the issue and see if anything i do fixs it, my typical DPC latency when i have no problems is anywhere between 90 and 100 however, when the problem starts it shoots to over 20000 here is a picture of when the problem hits
As you can see, it just skyrockets, now this red latency can last anywhere between 30 seconds and 30 minutes before returning back to normal green, it happens randomly more so when im playing games (call of duty modern warfare 2 for example) it also makes the game im playing stutter like i have 1 FPS, when it returns back to green my sound issue is gone and my game runs perfectly
Im not the best with computers so disabling devices and stuff is new to me and im not sure which ones are safe to disable and which are not (except for System and Computer) i have the latest graphics and sound drivers and ive even tryed the default Windows 7 ones and 3 different Nvidia ones from the website and they changed nothing
Somebody suggested i download the tool Latencymon so i did, i ran it when my dpc latency was not spiking and it reported no problems, however when the dpc latency spiked it reported the same problem over and over
Also, the rest of the results it recorded whilst i had high dpc latency
One or more DPC routines that execute on behalf of drivers running in your system appear to be causing serious problems making your system unsuitable for processing real time audio. You are likely to experience audio dropouts, clicks and pops.
Time running: 0:04:59Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 28821
Responsible driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 260.99 , NVIDIA Corporation)
DPC count (execution time <500 µs): 17351502
DPC count (execution time 500-999 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 2000-3999 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 29Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 79
Responsible driver: dxgkrnl.sys (DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation)
ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 16799994
ISR count (execution time 250-499 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 1000-1999 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=2000 µs): 0Highest pagefault resolution time (µs): 171192
Hard pagefault count (total): 100152
Number of processes hit: 24
Pagefault count of hardest hit process: 82207
Process with highest pagefault count: MsMpEng.exe (PID: 920)NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.
Note: all execution times are calculated based on a CPU clock speed of 4011 MHz. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.
This is beyond me whats causing it but its got to the point where i simply cannot put up with it anymore and i need to find a fix any help you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated as its making gaming extremely hard to do
System Specification
— Power Supply: Corsair TX 650W ATX SLi Compliant Power Supply
— CPU: Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz Overclocked to 4.00GHz
— Motherboard: Gigabyte EX58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
— Cooler: Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B CPU Cooler with Sharkoon Silent Eagle 2000rpm 120mm Fan
— RAM: Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel
— Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache
— Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
— Sound: Realtek ALC889 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
— Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive
— Windows 7 64-Bit -
Your drivers are ALL up to date? Chipset, Sound, NIC, Mouse, DirectX, Windows Update and any low level drivers updated (AV etc)?
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Im not sure where to download the chipset and NIC drivers (sorry im not very good at this stuff) but i do have everything else
NIC: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Chipset: Intel X58 -
Hey thanks for finding those for me, the realtek one just takes me to the main page however
When i go to install the chipset drivers it tells me i have a newer version and do i wish to install the older one, does this mean i do not need to update or shall i just install the older ones?
Thanks
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Just got 3 new things come up in the LAtencymon monitor tab..sigh i dont even know what to do anymore it appears it isnt just a nvidia driver
USBPORT.SYS USB 1.1 & 2.0 Port Driver
dxgkrnl.sys DirectX Graphics Kernel
ataport.SYS ATAPI Driver extension -
i havent have realtec installed for while, but can u try disable any features like «virtual 7.1» or similar if there is and then try again to start app and see if it spikes
sry for grammar
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I dont have anything called that or similar
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set 2 speakers only, thats what i ment
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Didnt make a difference
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Carfax
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Make sure you’re running the latest BIOS for your motherboard, and that CIE power management is disabled in the BIOS, EIST, plus any other power saving options. Sometime these settings can cause the DPC latency to spike, so just try fiddling with them.
I see you also have a Gigabyte motherboard, so make sure that Easytune and Dynamic Energy saver etc is disabled as these are definitely known to cause problems.
Also, make sure HPET (High precision event timer) is enabled in the BIOS. Sometimes disabling HPET can also lower DPC latency big time as well, so just test it out.
Last edited: Nov 15, 2010
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