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#1
I found a used 2007 Mac Mini 2,1 at the Goodwill a couple of years ago so I picked it up really cheap and went ahead and upgraded the memory to 4 gigs (3 gigs usable) and the processor with a 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo and then installed both Mac Os Lion and Windows 7 on the hard drive. Everything was fine with that setup but recently I found online that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free so I though «what the hell» and let windows do the upgrade…
Wow, I’m shocked at how well the latest version of windows runs on this old computer. Yeah of course it’s not gaming machine speed, but still I’m just amazed the the experience is totally usable. I also have an Xbox One so I can automatically log into my xbox account from the Mini and access that. All of Windows runs just fine, Office, new versions of browsers, all no issue. It’s nice having a fully functional Windows 10 system available for if I need to access some weird program that doesn’t run on my Mac’s and I can’t beat the price.
The last update I want to do to this old Mac Mini is replace the hard drive with an SSD, which I’m planning later this year. Hopefully this will speed things up even more for both operating systems.
I use Macs exclusively, but I have to say that Microsoft has come a long way since I last used their software and it’s been a pretty pleasant experience so far.
Anyways, if anyone out there still has one of these Core 2 Duo machines collecting dust I can really recommend this as a pretty cheap way to get the machine back in use with a new up to date operating system and if you happen to have or can score an old copy of windows 7 somewhere, you can then upgrade for FREE through Microsoft online to Windows 10 (yes the upgrade still works just fine in spite of Microsoft saying it has expired, just ignore that)
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#2
I found a used 2007 Mac Mini 2,1 at the Goodwill a couple of years ago so I picked it up really cheap and went ahead and upgraded the memory to 4 gigs (3 gigs usable) and the processor with a 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo and then installed both Mac Os Lion and Windows 7 on the hard drive. Everything was fine with that setup but recently I found online that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free so I though «what the hell» and let windows do the upgrade…
Wow, I’m shocked at how well the latest version of windows runs on this old computer. Yeah of course it’s not gaming machine speed, but still I’m just amazed the the experience is totally usable. I also have an Xbox One so I can automatically log into my xbox account from the Mini and access that. All of Windows runs just fine, Office, new versions of browsers, all no issue. It’s nice having a fully functional Windows 10 system available for if I need to access some weird program that doesn’t run on my Mac’s and I can’t beat the price.
The last update I want to do to this old Mac Mini is replace the hard drive with an SSD, which I’m planning later this year. Hopefully this will speed things up even more for both operating systems.
I use Macs exclusively, but I have to say that Microsoft has come a long way since I last used their software and it’s been a pretty pleasant experience so far.
Anyways, if anyone out there still has one of these Core 2 Duo machines collecting dust I can really recommend this as a pretty cheap way to get the machine back in use with a new up to date operating system and if you happen to have or can score an old copy of windows 7 somewhere, you can then upgrade for FREE through Microsoft online to Windows 10 (yes the upgrade still works just fine in spite of Microsoft saying it has expired, just ignore that)
Windows works on pretty much everything.
Windows 10 doesn’t need graphic acceleration to run at all.
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#3
No surprise as i’m running Windows 10 x64 on a ThinkPad T60 with 4GB of RAM and which is now 12 years old and it flies.
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#4
At school, I use a 2010 iMac as my main computer. The district is all windows only, so the computer lab in my classroom is full of machines running windows 10. The lab management software only runs under windows. I decided to use an old 2006 mini that I had laying around for this. Flashed the firmware to a 2,1, upgraded to 4GB, pit in a 2.33GHz C2D, and this little guy runs 10 like a champ. I have it buried away in a corner of my desk running headless with VNC software so I can remote into it from my iMac. These little guys keep amazing!
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#5
Windows 10 seems to work very well on minimal and old hardware. Nice way to extend the useful life of older devices.
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#6
No surprise as i’m running Windows 10 x64 on a ThinkPad T60 with 4GB of RAM and which is now 12 years old and it flies.
Haha.
I had a T41 and a T61-Great Machines!!
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#7
Haha.
I had a T41 and a T61-Great Machines!!
I owned a ThinkPad 380ED with TFT in the late 90’s back when IBM was still making their own computers before they sold the business to Lenovo. The 380ED was a tank.
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#8
Remember you can run Win 10 without activation for free. It runs great on Mac hardware.
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#9
I have a 2008 mbp and I can’t install windows 10 due to boot amp not supporting it. How did you achieve this?
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#10
Remember you can run Win 10 without activation for free. It runs great on Mac hardware.
And also you can buy grey market (eg. eBay) Windows 10 licenses fairly cheaply.
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#11
Wow, I’m shocked at how well the latest version of windows runs on this old computer. Yeah of course it’s not gaming machine speed, but still I’m just amazed the the experience is totally usable. I also have an Xbox One so I can automatically log into my xbox account from the Mini and access that. All of Windows runs just fine, Office, new versions of browsers, all no issue. It’s nice having a fully functional Windows 10 system available for if I need to access some weird program that doesn’t run on my Mac’s and I can’t beat the price.
A number of months ago I stumbled across a YouTube blogger who tested the amount of RAM necessary for Windows. He discovered Windows 10 required less RAM than Windows 8.x which in turn required less RAM than Windows 7. Despite Windows having a reputation for becoming increasingly bloated that doesn’t appear to be the case when it comes to booting Windows (his testing was limited to booting Windows). I think this is it:
It’s ironic the latest version of Windows runs on hardware for which the hardware vendors own OS will not.
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#12
I have a 2008 mbp and I can’t install windows 10 due to boot amp not supporting it. How did you achieve this?
You don’t need boot camp to support it. Install Windows 7, which your boot camp does support, and then simply let Windows 7 upgrade itself to Windows 10! The ONLY issue I have (which I already had in Windows 7) is that the internal bluetooth in the MacMini doesn’t seem to be recognized properly in Windows 10 (or 7) and I cannot seem to locate proper drivers ANYWHERE that remedy this situation. I just use a usb keyboard instead of a wireless (like I do when I boot into Lion on the same machine) and there are no issues.
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#13
Happened to just catch this discussion thread today.
I also am running W10 on a 2007 Mac Mini with Boot Camp installed. Like the OP, I upgraded to Win10 with W7 64-bit already installed. (Note: EFI fix was needed to do that).
As I recall, I then went back and figured out, with online help of course, how to install portions/specific drivers from Boot Camp 6 and earlier versions as needed to cover the various hardware needs. FWIW, the version of Boot Camp that W10 sees is version 6, meaning that I have a current version of MacHALDriver.sys (recently reported issue) and thus had no trouble recently updating W10 to version 1903.
There was definitely a trial-and-error element to the driver process, and I ended up using the Microsoft-supplied driver for some options and maybe even used some vendor-supplied ones too. This includes Bluetooth: the generic Microsoft driver works for me.
Question for the OP if he sees this: how is the Mini’s fan speed in Windows using the 2.33GHz processor? I have been tempted more than once to swap my 2.0GHZ for the faster one but have always been concerned that there might be significantly increased fan activity to go with the extra speed.
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#14
Happened to just catch this discussion thread today.
I also am running W10 on a 2007 Mac Mini with Boot Camp installed. Like the OP, I upgraded to Win10 with W7 64-bit already installed. (Note: EFI fix was needed to do that).
As I recall, I then went back and figured out, with online help of course, how to install portions/specific drivers from Boot Camp 6 and earlier versions as needed to cover the various hardware needs. FWIW, the version of Boot Camp that W10 sees is version 6, meaning that I have a current version of MacHALDriver.sys (recently reported issue) and thus had no trouble recently updating W10 to version 1903.
There was definitely a trial-and-error element to the driver process, and I ended up using the Microsoft-supplied driver for some options and maybe even used some vendor-supplied ones too. This includes Bluetooth: the generic Microsoft driver works for me.
Question for the OP if he sees this: how is the Mini’s fan speed in Windows using the 2.33GHz processor? I have been tempted more than once to swap my 2.0GHZ for the faster one but have always been concerned that there might be significantly increased fan activity to go with the extra speed.
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. I haven’t had any issues at all with the processor upgrade, no weird fan speeds or other issues under OS X or Windows 10. I highly recommend the cpu upgrade, plus it’s super cheap. Last upgrades I want to do to my little mini are a DVD burner replacement of the internal CD burner and an SSD replacement of the hard drive! Windows 10 seems to be a bitch to copy from the hard drive to SSD but other than that should be good!
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#15
Win 10 may be Ok if you boot directly into it but it’s a huge resource hog as a virtual machine under Parallels even on an 2012 i7.
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#16
Thanks for the processor input — perhaps I will perform that upgrade then.
Re: the SSD, which I am also considering, are you by chance familiar with Winclone? I’ve used it successfully in the past to move Boot Camp partitions, and it appears to work with SSDs as well.
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#17
Win 10 may be Ok if you boot directly into it but it’s a huge resource hog as a virtual machine under Parallels even on an 2012 i7.
In your example Windows 10 isn’t the resource hog but Parallels is. Any virtual machine needs lots of overhead.
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#18
In your example Windows 10 isn’t the resource hog but Parallels is. Any virtual machine needs lots of overhead.
No — I also have a Windows XP VM — this is fine on my old Mini but the Win10 VM most definitely is not. On my new 2018 Mini Win10 is Ok on Parallels.
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#19
Nice, good to hear. But how is everyone upgrading? Mac mini is soldered cpu so you can not replace it with a core 2 duo. Better to just get a used core 2 duo mini.
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#20
Mac Mini 1,1 and 2,1 aren’t soldered. Pretty easy process to upgrade the firmware and replace the CPU.
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#21
Just a quick update to my original post. The mini running Windows 10 just auto updated to the latest version (1093 I think) and still running great, no issues.
I hope to update the internal hard drive and dvd drive soon and will report back how that effects performance under Windows 10!
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#22
I found a used 2007 Mac Mini 2,1 at the Goodwill a couple of years ago so I picked it up really cheap and went ahead and upgraded the memory to 4 gigs (3 gigs usable) and the processor with a 2.33 GHz Core 2 Duo and then installed both Mac Os Lion and Windows 7 on the hard drive. Everything was fine with that setup but recently I found online that you can still upgrade to Windows 10 for free so I though «what the hell» and let windows do the upgrade…
Wow, I’m shocked at how well the latest version of windows runs on this old computer. Yeah of course it’s not gaming machine speed, but still I’m just amazed the the experience is totally usable. I also have an Xbox One so I can automatically log into my xbox account from the Mini and access that. All of Windows runs just fine, Office, new versions of browsers, all no issue. It’s nice having a fully functional Windows 10 system available for if I need to access some weird program that doesn’t run on my Mac’s and I can’t beat the price.
The last update I want to do to this old Mac Mini is replace the hard drive with an SSD, which I’m planning later this year. Hopefully this will speed things up even more for both operating systems.
I use Macs exclusively, but I have to say that Microsoft has come a long way since I last used their software and it’s been a pretty pleasant experience so far.
Anyways, if anyone out there still has one of these Core 2 Duo machines collecting dust I can really recommend this as a pretty cheap way to get the machine back in use with a new up to date operating system and if you happen to have or can score an old copy of windows 7 somewhere, you can then upgrade for FREE through Microsoft online to Windows 10 (yes the upgrade still works just fine in spite of Microsoft saying it has expired, just ignore that)
Hi Douglas, I recently did an upgrade to Windows 10 on my 2007 Mac Mini, however I finding video is laggy now.
Whilst it looked like the right graphics driver was still installed, I then tried updating the latest version I could find (https://www.tenforums.com/graphic-c…obile-intel-945gm-express-chipset-family.html) but no change.
How is the video on your machine on Windows 10. Did you do anything after the Windows upgrade?
BTW video was all good on Windows 7 before the upgrade.
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#23
Happened to just catch this discussion thread today.
I also am running W10 on a 2007 Mac Mini with Boot Camp installed. Like the OP, I upgraded to Win10 with W7 64-bit already installed. (Note: EFI fix was needed to do that).
As I recall, I then went back and figured out, with online help of course, how to install portions/specific drivers from Boot Camp 6 and earlier versions as needed to cover the various hardware needs. FWIW, the version of Boot Camp that W10 sees is version 6, meaning that I have a current version of MacHALDriver.sys (recently reported issue) and thus had no trouble recently updating W10 to version 1903.
There was definitely a trial-and-error element to the driver process, and I ended up using the Microsoft-supplied driver for some options and maybe even used some vendor-supplied ones too. This includes Bluetooth: the generic Microsoft driver works for me.
Question for the OP if he sees this: how is the Mini’s fan speed in Windows using the 2.33GHz processor? I have been tempted more than once to swap my 2.0GHZ for the faster one but have always been concerned that there might be significantly increased fan activity to go with the extra speed.
Peter, How did you get 64 bit working on the 2007 mac mini, thought it was a 32-bit cpu only? Does it mean you can use 4Gb or RAM?
How is your video working after the upgrade, I’m finding mine really laggy.
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#24
Hi!
I’m not sure what you mean exactly by laggy, but to me running Windows 10 on this Mac Mini ”feels” to me like the difference between running Mac OS X on a power PC machine vs an Intel machine. For example, my Powerbook G4 running OS Leopard “feels” sluggish compared to my Intel macbook pro running Mojave, the Powerbook is using a lot more processing power to do the same things that the Macbook does easily. So I guess I would agree that it’s pushing the Mac Mini pretty hard to get it to handle all of the overhead of the Windows OS with only 4 Gigs (3 usable) of memory and a spinning hard drive. However, that aside the machine certainly is more than adequate to use and I can get normal day to day work done on it under Windows, I certainly wouldn’t even dream of gaming on it though. I suspect that once I add an SSD it will help quite a bit though. The reason I haven’t taken the SSD plunge yet has to do with the pain in the ass it seems it is to transfer Windows 10 to another hard drive, or so I’ve read. I’m waiting a little longer before I do this, mostly due to time.
As far as fan speeds, I don’t notice any real difference between Mac OS Lion and Windows 10, which is what I run on this particular machine…both use the fan just as much as the other.
I would seriously recommend the upgrades that I’ve done to this machine to everyone that has one, they are cheap and easy to do and make the machine a hundred times more pleasant to use. The ONLY thing I would HIGHLY recommend anyone else do that I screwed up is put in an SSD BEFORE you install Windows so you don’t have the additional headache that I now face of transferring Windows over to a new hard drive after the fact.
Hope that helps, and if anyone else out there knows exactly which bluetooth driver is needed for this exact machine to get the Apple bluetooth keyboards to work PLEASE reply in this thread, that would be great!!!
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#25
The reason I haven’t taken the SSD plunge yet has to do with the pain in the ass it seems it is to transfer Windows 10 to another hard drive, or so I’ve read.
You can clone the drives, either by creating an image (with Disk Utility) and restoring it into the destination drive, or via the terminal (with the dd command, for example, but this is more or less what Disk Utility uses, simply without a GUI), or some other software, for example Gparted is very good!
I’ve cloned disks with each of the upper suggested methods for Mac and Windows (and Linux) with success.
Introduction
Following the release of Windows 10, Apple has also updated their Windows 10 support via BootCamp v6. See here: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204990
Essentially BootCamp allows Windows to be installed on another partition (called the BootCamp partition) on the same Mac hard drive (or SSD); this allows the user to easily dual boot the Mac between MacOS and Windows. While BootCamp 6 is great for those people who are lucky enough to buy or own any Mac later than 2012, it is not so useful for people like me who are still using older desktop such as the 24″ iMac 2007.
For the iMac 2007, the BootCamp support stops at version 4. Apple officially supports Windows 7 32bit running on a bootcamp partition. Many people have installed Windows 7 32bit onto the iMac 2007 and many people have also successfully upgraded this to Windows 8.1 32bit. Apple says the iMac only can run up to Windows 7 32-bit. So running anything beyond this means you are on your own when it comes to having issues. Unfortunately a 32bit OS cannot take full advantage of the 4GB of ram and a 64bit OS is required.
iMac 2007 – 8 year-old technology that is just as good in year 2015
This is the iMac 2007 spec just in case anyone is not aware:
- 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
- Max 4GB DDR2 SDRAM PC2-5300
- 1920 x 1200 TFT screen
- ATI Radeon 2600 Pro with 256MB GDDR3 memory (The 20″ iMac with 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo has a slightly slower ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB of GDDR3 memory)
MacOS reported the hardware as follows:
The 24″ iMac 2007 is an 8 year old desktop and most people would deem this as a dinosaur in today’s context. I think the iMac 2007 is a reliable machine and still looks gorgeous by today’s standard and it will be great to be able to extend its life for a few more years. Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 is known to run well on older hardware. In fact Windows 10 with its “Compact OS” feature have an even smaller footprint than Windows 8.1. Wouldn’t it be great if we can install Windows 10 on the iMac to make it even more useful? And while we are at it, why not make this a 64bit install too. These days it does not make a lot of sense to use a 32bit OS unless we are dealing with really really old hardware with 2GB ram or less.
I have had Yosemite installed on my 24″ iMac but find that it has been giving me random reboot from time to time. It is completely random and very frustrating. A quick search on Google suggest that I am not alone in this. It is unfortunate that a supposedly stable OS based on the Mach kernel can be so sentimental at times. So in the meantime I have downgraded to Maverick to enjoy a more stable environment. So this article is written with the main aim to dual boot Maverick and Windows 10 64bit. El Capitan has just been released and I will be trying that in place of Maverick.
If the install is not successful, well at least I have tried and failed. But I am pleased to say that all seems to go well. I am happy with the result. The iMac is no speed demon but if you are not into gaming, I think Windows 10 performance on the iMac 2007 is pretty snappy. Here is how I did it.
Disclaimer
This tutorial is made with MacOS Maverick in mind and given this, I am not sure if this tutorial will work with Yosemite or the upcoming El Capitan. However, I really don’t see any reason why not. This tutorial assume that you have some basic knowledge of how to work on a command prompt, etc. It is also assumed that your MAC is physically connected to your Windows PC via Ethernet or wireless because we need to share files at a certain point. Please note that you will be taking your own risk to do this install and please do a backup first before you do anything.
I have not used Boot Camp Assistant throughout this tutorial because I have not found that it is necessary to do so. Before I discovered this method, I was mucking around with editing Boot Camp Assistant and installing Windows 7 first and then installing Windows 10 over the partition. The process is lengthy and simply just too tedious for me.
Step 1 – Creating a Bootable Windows 10 64bit DVD
It is assumed that Maverick is already installed on the Mac and that you have a PC with Windows handy. We need to create a bootable DVD using Windows. It is possible to do the same on the Mac but I think it is a lot easier to do this on a Windows box.
Windows 10 64bit ISO can be downloaded by running the Microsoft Media Creation Tool on a Windows 7/8/8.1 machine. More information is located here. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10. In a nutshell, you just run the Media Creation Tool and it will download the ISO for you. Don’t use it to create a bootable USB because we don’t need a bootable USB for this tutorial. Don’t burn this to a bootable DVD either…at least not yet. We will need to post-processed the Windows 10 ISO before doing so.
Now that you have downloaded the Windows 10 64bit ISO and saved this somewhere, we need to tweak/remaster the ISO using Microsoft’s OSCDIMG tool. You can find more info about the OSCDIMG tool here – https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749036(WS.10).aspx. Download this tool to a temporary folder.
Why is this necessary? Well…if you don’t remaster the Windows 10 ISO at this stage, chances are that you won’t get pass the “Select CD-ROM Boot Type” issue. This error will pop up when you try to boot the iMac from the stock Windows 10 DVD and this looks like this:
The trouble with the above error is that the keyboard is being locked out and you can’t press any key. So we need to customize the install DVD. This sounds very complex but is actually very simple. The way to remaster the Windows 10 64bit ISO is this:
- Create a temporary folder say C:\WIN1064 with the intent to hold the content to this ISO. Try to keep the name short and without spaces. It is easier to deal with short names in a command line later.
- On Windows, double click the Windows 10 64bit ISO to mount this ISO (or you can use any other software you prefer, such as 7-ZIP). Copy all the content and dump the whole lot to C:\WIN1064 folder. Remember to preserve all the sub-folders and the like.
- Move the OSCDIMG.exe file you have downloaded earlier to another temporary folder such as C:\TEMP folder.
- Start a windows command prompt with Administration rights. Change the directory to C:\TEMP folder.
- Issue this command “c:\temp\oscdimg.exe -n -m -b”c:\WIN1064\boot\etfsboot.com” “c:\WIN1064” “c:\temp\win1064.iso”.
This will create a remastered ISO of Windows 10 64bit located in the folder C:\temp. Now use a CD writing software such as InfraRecorder to burn this ISO to a DVD. If all things go smoothly, you should now have a bootable Windows 10 64bit remastered DVD. We are now done with the PC and can now shift our attention to the Mac.
Step 2 – Finding out iMac’s graphics display engine
Boot the iMac. We need to do some data gathering on the kind of graphics hardware the iMac has.
The above info tells us that the GPU is an ATI Radeon 2600 Pro with 256MB ram. This is a very important piece of info.
Step 3 – Partitioning the iMac
We need to be aware of the ways OSX manage the drive partitions. There are some partitions which are intended to be hidden from view. The Mac Disk Utility is capable of viewing these partitions but we need to first tweak its settings. This is what we need to do. First make sure that disk utility is not open. Quit Disk Utility if have to. Open a terminal and type in this command in one line.
defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 1
The terminal window will look somewhat like this:
To disable this function, just start Terminal again and key in this line.
defaults write com.apple.DiskUtility DUDebugMenuEnabled 0
Now start Disk Utility and make sure that the “Show every partition” setting is enabled as follows:
I have previously replaced the hard drive to my iMac 2007 with a new 240GB Kingston HyperX SSD. My main OSX Maverick partition is 75GB (for now) and I have the remaining 165GB partition intended for El Capitan in future.
The above is how my partitions look like before prepping the system for windows 10. It can also be observed that there is a hidden EFI partition that is otherwise not visible. It is important to note that I have a very simple partitioning scheme on my iMac. So if you have a complicated setup, then this tutorial may or may not work for you. Ideally I would like to reserve at least 128GB for Windows 10 but I will use 100GB for now. Usually I will create a Windows OS partition + a Data partition on my PC boxes but I decided that I am going to just keep things simple for now. So the OS + Data go onto one big partition at this stage. I have most of my data stored on a NAS anyway so this is not a problem for me.
Now we need to create a partition suitable for Windows 10. There are 2 ways to partition a drive: via MBR (Master Boot Record) or via GPT (GUID Partition Table). Wikipedia has more information here:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
To put it simply, MBR is a legacy standard that was introduced since the early IBM PC DOS days. MBR is limited to a maximum of 4 primary partitions. To create more partition, we will have to resort to more creative ways such as setting the 4th partition as the extended partition so that we can create logical drives (sub-partitions) within the extended partition. It is a limited system. The GPT scheme is the way forward.
Just a note here: Windows 7 can only be installed on a MBR partition but it’s data drivers can be located on GPT partitions. Windows 8.1 64 bit can be installed to a GPT but the system must support UEFI.
On the Mac, launch Terminal and type “diskutil list” to list all the partitions visible to MacOS.
What I did next is to resize my El Capitan partition to 64.6GB and make way for a new 100GB partition for Windows 10.
The command line to do this is
diskutil resizevolume /dev/disk0s3 64.6G MS-DOS “WIN7” 100G
Obviously the partition name and disk size will be different between different users.
Graphically, Disk Utility will show something like this:
Now that we have created a new Win7 partition, we can proceed to install Windows 10.
Step 4 – Installing Windows 10
Insert the Windows 10 64bit boot DVD into the iMac and reboot the Mac. Once the famous Mac boot tone is heard, press the Option key. We should now see a Windows DVD icon next to the Maverick one like so.
This will allow us to select whether we are going to boot from the SSD or to boot from the DVD. Select the Windows DVD. Windows 10 will now boot and we should now see the Windows 10 logo on the screen. Be aware that the boot process takes a long time so while it may appear that the system has hung, it is not. It is just very slow. After about a minute or 2 later, we will now see the first setup screen.
Follow the prompt until we are at this screen where Windows prompt us whether we should do an Upgrade Install or a Custom Install. Select Custom: Install Windows Only (Advanced).
This will quickly bring us to the Windows partition screen.
Some quick observations:
- There are now 4 primary partitions:
- Disk0 Partition 1 which is the Mac EFI partition (200MB).
- Disk0 Partition 2 which is the Mac Maverick partition (69.9GB).
- Disk0 partition 3 which is the Mac El Capitan partition (60.2GB).
- Disk0 partition 4 which is the newly created windows partition (93.1GB)
- Windows also created a boot partition which is 128MB.
We wanted to install Windows 10 on Disk0 Partition 4 but Windows will state the following error message “Windows can’t be installed on Drive 0 Partition 4.”
Ignore this and while this partition is selected, click “Format” and format the partition. When the format is done, the error message will go away and Windows 10 can proceed to installing normally.
From hereon, the installation is typical of any Windows 10 PC install.
At some stage of the installation, Windows 10 will automatically reboot. This is fine. No need to press the Option key as it is smart enough to know that it should boot from its own windows partition. In fact, I observed that Windows 10 rebooted twice in total before it shows the screen prompting for a product key. Enter the product key accordingly.
Next it will ask if we should customize the settings or use express settings. I select custom settings and I highly recommended that this be selected. See here for more information of what to enable and what to disable. http://www.howtogeek.com/224352/what%E2%80%99s-the-difference-between-windows-10%E2%80%99s-express-or-custom-setup/
Once this is done, Windows 10 will again reboot and proceed with the install. Follow the prompt accordingly as Windows prompt for login account, etc. When the install is finished, Windows 10 will boot to a desktop. This is how it looks on my Mac.
Peeking under the hoot shows this:
Viola! We have now successfully installed Windows 10 64bit on an 8 year old Mac.
Step 5 – Windows Drivers
The first observation with Windows 10 on the iMac is that the screen resolution is not the optimum 1920 x 1200. If we leave Windows 10 running for about 5 mins after its first boot, it will automatically change the screen resolution to the correct 1920 x 1200. Unfortunately, Windows 10 will in the process select the wrong graphics driver.
The above screenshot shows that Windows 10 has detected the display card as an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT. The iMac 2007 has an ATI Radeon 2600 Pro with 256MB GDDR3 memory. Why is this significant? Because with the incorrect driver, Windows 10 will hard crash from time to time and this can be reproduced each time easily when we drive the card hard such as playing a youtube video for instance. This gets so bad that it is almost impossible to use the iMac for any length of time.
The blue screen of death looks like the following:
A closer look will find that it is the ATI driver that is causing the crash. Hint: look at the atikmpag.sys error above. This is in fact the hardest part in this tutorial to deal with. It takes several trials and errors to hit the right note and even with this tutorial, I don’t expect it will be a smooth sailing for everyone.
Step 6 – Display Card Hardware IDs
I have tried to force Windows 10 to use the correct display driver that comes as part of the OS but I don’t have much success with this approach. The closest device driver that come with Windows 10 for the ATI Radeon 2600 Pro is the ATI Radeon HD2600 Pro.
However, Windows 10 will not install this driver and will throw the following error:
We don’t have any other options other than to modify the video driver.
But first we need to gather some forensic data from Windows 10 on the iMac. Go to Display driver properties, hit the “properties” button. This will open up another windows. Navigate to the “Details” tab and in the dropdown menu, select “Hardware Ids” as shown below.
Microsoft has some good info what exactly are “Hardware Ids”. See here. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff546152%28v=vs.85%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396. In a nutshell, a hardware ID is an identification string defined by a manufacturer so that Windows can use this information and pair the hardware device to a device driver INF file. So in our case, there is a mismatch between the physical hardware and the device driver and hence the crash.
We can see that there are 4 hardware Ids as reported by Windows 10. These hardware IDs resemble one another, sort of in a way. There are clearly some patterns here:
- The first string is the longest and contain the most amount of information. The other strings appear to be a subset of the first string.
- The second string is almost identical to the first except that the string truncated the revision number at the end. The fourth string is also almost identical to the third except missing 2 x zeros at the end.
So what we need to do now is to select these 4 hardware IDs by highlighting these 4 lines and right click the mouse to copy. Copy and paste these lines into a temporary text file so that we can get to these later.
We now need to install the latest video driver.
Step 7 – Installing the latest Video Driver
This tutorial is using Windows 10 64 bit so we obviously will only use 64 bit drivers. Browse to AMD’s website: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
The display card is an old card and is considered a legacy device.
AMD has yet to update their older device drivers to Windows 10 64bit so drivers compatible with Windows 8 64bit is the next best thing. Click “Display Results” and we will see:
Download the catalyst software suite v13.1 from the above link.
Before we install this, we need to disable Windows 10 64 bit’s driver signature enforcement. This is unique only to 64 bit OS and this step is not required for 32 bit Windows.
Here is a helpful guide how to disable Windows 10’s driver signature enforcement.
http://www.howtogeek.com/167723/how-to-disable-driver-signature-verification-on-64-bit-windows-8.1-so-that-you-can-install-unsigned-drivers/
So the steps to do this are:
- Select “Restart” from the Power options menu and hold down the Shift key and click restart
- Once computer is booted, select Troubleshoot option -> Advanced Options -> Startup Settings. There will be a startup button there. Hit the startup button and the iMac will reboot.
- After the iMac is rebooted, a list of startup settings will then show up. Press the F7 key (or the “7” number key) to disable driver signature enforcement.
- The iMac will once again reboot.
Now install the AMD Catalyst Software. I select Custom Install so at least I have a slight knowledge of what components will be installed to Windows.
When the install is finished, navigating to the video device driver properties window will now show a new “Catalyst Pro Control Center” tab. See the following screenshot:
But clicking this will show an error like so:
Now we have to patch the video driver.
Step 8 – Patching the Video Driver
- Go to Display Driver Properties -> Properties -> Detail -> INF Section. Observe the string that is being shown. On my iMac this is “ati2mtag_M76”.
2. Use Windows Explorer to navigate to this directory: “c:\AMD\Support\13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF” as shown here.
The files are generally named like so:
- C7 series with names such as C7160540, etc
- C8 series with names such as C8160540, etc
- CH series with names such as CH160540, etc.
There is a significance to how these files are named. The CH ones are device drivers for Windows Vista. The C7 ones are for Windows 7 and C8 ones are for Windows 8. We are going to patch the C8 drivers. So before we do any damage to these files, let us back these up to another folder. Quite an important step in case we make a unrecoverable error here.
There are 3 off C8 series files. These are:
- C8160540.cat
- C8160540.inf
- C8160540.msi
Peeking inside the C8160540.inf file, we will see all the definitions of video drivers. If we look closer, we will find strings such as
[Manufacturer] %ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.2
The notable part in the above string is the last digits “6.2“. This is the “version strings” that identify the version of Windows NT. The Windows NT version strings are as follows:
- NT 5.0 = Windows 2000
- NT 5.1 = Windows XP
- NT 6.0 = Windows Vista
- NT 6.1 = Windows 7
- NT 6.2 = Windows 8
- NT 6.3 = Windows 8.1
- NT 6.4 = Windows 10
So what we will do is to change the above string to:
%ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.4
So that Windows 10 can recognize this as a valid device driver. I edited this [Manufacturer] section as follows:
[Manufacturer] ;%ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.2 ;The above is the original string ;The below is a newly amended string for Windows 10 %ATI% = ATI.Mfg, NTamd64.6.4
Now we know from Windows 10 that the INF section is relevant to the video driver is:
"ati2mtag_M76".
Next we are going to change the section identifier from
[ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.2] to [ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.4]
The amended section now looks like this:
Next we are going to scroll all the way down in this INF file. The goal is to find a “localizable” string that reads something like “ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro” or something similar. This section looks something like the following:
Scrolling towards the end of the file, we will come to this line, which is what we want:
Note that this string has an identifier “AMD9589.6”. Now do a search for this string and we will quickly come to this line:
Now amend this line to read as follows:
Now go to Display Properties and update the driver. When it prompt for a driver, click the “Have Disk” button and point to the folder c:\AMD\Support\13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display\W86A_INF” folder.
Select the file C8160540.INF. Windows 10 will display several compatible drivers like so:
Theoretically all 4 drivers should be the same so choose the first one to see if this works. Windows 10 will complain about unsigned drivers. Ignore this and proceed. Windows will go blank for a few times while the new driver is loaded. This is normal. Display Properties will now show the following:
We are now done!!
This sounds complicated but it is really not. To recap, we only need to do these:
- Find out from Windows Properties what is the “INF Section” string. In my case it is “ati2mtag_M76”
- Amend the C8XXXX.inf to change the NT version string from 6.2 to 6.4
- From within the C8XXXX.inf file, scroll down near to the end of the file to locate the localizable string “ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO”. In my case my line reads: AMD9589.6 = “ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO”
- Take note of the first part of this string and search for this string “AMD9589.6” within the file. We will be able to locate this line which in my case reads: “%AMD9589.6%” = ati2mtag_RV630, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9589
- Amend the above lines. Refer earlier texts for more info.
- Update the driver in Device Properties and viola we are done.
To verify if this works, load a youtube video and see if this cause the iMac to crash. In my case, Windows 10 appear to be stable. Fingers crossed. Note that AMD’s Catalyst Pro Control Center will not work immediately after the device driver is installed. We need to do a reboot first. Catalyst Pro will work after the reboot.
Step 9 – What works and what don’t
What worked out of the box:
- Sound
- Wifi
- Networking
In fact almost everything works. See the following device manager screenshot:
Catalyst Pro reported the video hardware as follows:
One of the first thing I did after Catalyst Pro is up and running is to change the screen brightness. The iMac’s screen is so bright that it actually hurts my eyes. I tune the setting all the way down. I overdid the settings by tuning the brightness all the way down to -100. I think -50 works well for me.
What don’t work (or buggy)
- Webcam
- Bluetooth
- Some keys in the Apple Keyboard.
I actually managed to install the Bluetooth driver and Bluetooth can be detected. But I am unable to turn on and off Bluetooth as desired so I consider this functionality is still broken. The webcam is still broken because none of the drivers worked. I have tried drivers from Bootcamp v4 and v5 and nothing is working.
Edit: 2015.12.09
I have just bought a Microsoft Sculpture Comfort Mouse for Aud $28 (good price in my opinion) and the bluetooth moyse works right out of the box with the iMac running Windows 10. Here’s the proof 🙂 However, there is still no way for me to simply turn on and off bluetooth. So while this works, it is not working 100%.
Step 10 and Beyond
The next milestone to achieve is to get the webcam and Bluetooth working. The odds are against me on this one but we will see how this progresses. Check back on this blog to see how I go.
Conclusion
Windows 10 has now been installed on my iMac for the past weeks and so far it has been stable. No crashes so far. Fingers crossed. I don’t find the iMac lagging in anyway and the experience of using Windows 10 on this aging iMac is not much different to my main desktop i5-4670 3.4GHz with 16GB ram. Windows 10 on the iMac is a good match and I would recommend this. Hope this tutorial is useful in anyway. Happy “windowing”…..
Credits and References
I cannot achieve the above without the following guides. Thanks to all the authors and contributors:
- http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-8-1-on-mac-without-boot-camp/
- http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-windows-8-1-bootable-usb-on-mac/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1x7p25/installing_a_64bit_version_of_windows_on/
- http://www.123myit.com/2014/02/create-bootable-windows-7-8-usb-mac/
- http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/tutorial-how-to-enable-usb-install-on-mavericks-for-unsupported-bootcamps.1680652/
- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6095828?start=0&tstart=0
- http://www.gopulls.com/blog/2009.08.26/install-windows-7-x64-on-a-mac-beat-the-select-cd-rom-boot-type-error/
- http://www.iruberleet.org/2011/10/12/fixing-select-cd-rom-boot-type-when-installing-64bit-windows/
- http://www.nizzoli.net/post/39218060119/windows-8-on-a-mid-2007-macmini
- http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2335392/manually-installing-latest-amd-catalyst-drivers-windows-vista.html
- http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/9839/how-to-manually-partition-boot-camp-your-mac-for-windows-7/
- http://blog.thedeltaflyer.com/2013/01/dual-booting-windows-8-and-mountain-lion-natively-using-efi/
- http://twocanoes.com/support/winclone/installing-windows-via-boot-camp-on-a-large-(2.2-tb-or-larger)-drive-in-lion-(10.7)-and-later
My daughter has a mac mini and she is being taught PC at school, but i do not want to buy a PC. Will this work on the older 2007 model
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Requirements are as follows:
- A Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor (Core Solo and Core Duo processors are no longer supported)
- Minimum 2 GB of memory (4 GB of memory is recommended to run Windows 7 in a virtual machine or if your host OS is Lion)
- About 850 MB of disk space on the boot volume (Macintosh HD) for Parallels Desktop installation
- About 15 GB of disk space for each virtual machine
- OS X Yosemite 10.10 or later
- OS X Mavericks 10.9.4 or later
- Mac OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.5 or later
- Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5 or later
From here > http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/system-requirements/
- A Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor (Core Solo and Core Duo processors are no longer supported)
- Minimum 2 GB of memory (4 GB of memory is recommended to run Windows 7 in a virtual machine or if your host OS is Lion)
- About 850 MB of disk space on the boot volume (Macintosh HD) for Parallels Desktop installation
- About 15 GB of disk space for each virtual machine]
f you aren’t sure which OS X is installed on your Mac, click your Apple top left in your screen. F
From the drop down menu click: About This Mac
The version is noted here.
Even if your Mac meets the requirements above, a 2007 Mac is eight years old. Just my two cents, you’d be better off buying an inexpensive PC such as an Acer. Installing Parallels is a daunting task at best. Same goes for VMware.
Can mac mini 2007 handle parallels and windows 10
MAC MINI BOOT CAMP SUPPORT DOWNLOADS DIRECT LINKS FROM APPLE
If you own a Mac mini and you wanted to install Windows on it to run maybe some Windows software or games, Apple makes it possible by releasing Windows drivers which will allow Windows to run on your Mac computer.
Since 123myIT has some videos on how to install Windows on your Mac we thought it fitting that we create a page which contains all the models of the Mac mini and which Boot Camp Support Software (Windows Drivers) you will need for your specific model of Mac.
Want to know how to install Windows on a Mac check out the videos below.
Install Windows 8.1 on a MacBook Air no DVD drive
How to install Windows 8.1 on a Mac running OS X Mavericks
How to install Windows 8 on a Mac with Boot Camp Easy Version
General Boot Camp questions about installing Windows 8 on a Mac
NOTE:You will need to know what model Mac you have to work this our you can watch the video here, How to find which Mac model you have.
Which Boot Camp supports your model of Mac?
Click the links below to see which version of Boot Camp you need for your Model of Mac.
MacBook Pro
MacBook Air
MacBook
iMac
Mac Pro
The following downloads contain the Windows Support Software (Windows Drivers) needed to run Windows on your computer.
NOTE: For older models the “DVD” means that the drivers are stored on the OS X install DVD that came with your computer.
Mac mini Boot Camp Drivers
Mac mini (Late 2014) Windows 10 BCA, Windows 8 64-bit, Boot Camp Assistant, Windows 7 64-bit, Boot Camp Assistant.
Mac mini Server (Late 2012) Windows 10 BCA, Windows 8 64-bit, 5.1.5621, Windows 7 64-bit, 4.1.4586.
Mac mini (Late 2012) Windows 10 BCA, Windows 8 64-bit, 5.1.5621, Windows 7 64-bit, 5.1.5621.
Mac mini Server (Mid 2011) Windows 8 64-bit, 5.1.5621, Windows 7 64-bit, 5.1.5621, Windows 7 32-bit, 4.0.4131.
Mac mini (Mid 2011) Windows 8 64-bit, 5.1.5621, Windows 7 64-bit, 5.1.5621, Windows 7 32-bit, 4.0.4131.
Mac mini (Mid 2010) Windows 7 64-bit, 4.0.4033, Windows 7 32-bit, 4.0.4033. Windows Vista 64-bit, DVD. Windows Vista 32-bit, DVD. Windows XP 32-bit, DVD.
Mac mini (Late 2009) Windows 7 32-bit, 4.0.4033. Windows Vista 32-bit, DVD. Windows XP 32-bit, DVD.
Mac mini (Early 2009) Windows 7 32-bit, 4.0.4033. Windows Vista 32-bit, DVD. Windows XP 32-bit, DVD.
Mac mini (Mid 2007) Windows 7 32-bit, 4.0.4033. Windows Vista 32-bit, DVD. Windows XP 32-bit, DVD.
Mac mini (Early 2006) Windows 7 32-bit, 4.0.4033. Windows Vista 32-bit, DVD. Windows XP 32-bit, DVD.
Установка и настройка Windows на Mac Mini M2
Несмотря на то, что в операционной системе macOs созданы условия для работы пользователей техники Apple, многие чувствуют себя не комфортно. Они стремятся получить Windows. Поэтому вопрос, возможна ли установка и настройка Windows на mac mini или другом устройстве, часто возникает.
Принципиальные различия двух операционных систем
Перед тем, как приступать к установке Windows на mac mini, нужно понять целесообразно это и в чем кроются различия двух систем.
Дизайн Apple – впечатляющий, так как компания затрачивает средства на его организацию и усовершенствование. Стоимость и затраты приравнивают к потраченным средствам на начинку устройств.
Но и современные операционные системы от Microsoft не уступают оформлением. Сегодня компьютеры с Виндовс смотрятся не менее круто, чем техника от Apple. Многие производители выпускают свои продуты именно под этой операционкой.
Наиболее комфортна Винда для геймеров. Любители игр выбирают именно ее, так как проще кастомизировать. Серьезные игроки постоянно добавляют операционную память, меняют видеокарту. Маки со временем устаревают, а добавить в них планку памяти не получится.
На заметку!
Многие игры на macOs просто не устанавливаются, что для геймеров является серьезным критерием при выборе.
Плюс техники от Apple в надежной техподдержке. При обращении в любой магазин компании, там диагностируют проблему и исправят ее. Но проблема в наличии подобных точек, они есть не везде. А вот с компьютерами под Windows все проще, мастера есть в каждом населенном пункте.
Еще один плюс Mac – они реже заражаются вирусами. Так как девайсов с такой оперативкой намного меньше, вредоносные программы создаются намного реже.
Операционные системы сильно отличаются друг от друга. Но Windows 10 удачно объединила в себе комфорт, пластичность и дружественность Виндовс 7 при этом добавилась ориентированность на сенсорные экраны 8. При желании выполняют настройку Windows на mac mini, чтобы работать комфортно.
Установка Виндовс
При установке и настройке Windows на mac mini подготавливаются заранее, чтобы не совершить ошибок в процессе.
Для проведения установки Windows на mac mini M2 потребуется:
- mac mini от компании Apple (с 2007 года выпуска);
- ISO образа лицензионной Виндовс;
- место на винчестере, чтобы провести установку Windows на mac mini через Boot Camp (не менее 55 Гб);
- Пустая флешка;
- инсталляторы Parallels, VirtualBox или VMware для виртуализации.
Особенности Boot Camp
Благодаря Boot Camp у пользователя mac появилась инсталляция Windows в качестве второй дополнительной ОС. При включении компьютера появится выбора.
На заметку!
По умолчанию будет загружаться mscOs, для того, чтобы появилось окно выбора, нажимают и удерживают клавишу Alt (Option).
При запуске Виндовс будут использовать все ресурсы компьютера для работы. При виртуализации это не предусмотрено. Но для переключения между операционками перегружают компьютер.
Для установки Windows на mac mini с помощью Boot Camp потребуется:
Подготовить iso-образ.
запускают мастер Boot Camp. Создают установочный диск для загрузки на пустой USB-носитель.
Запускают подготовленный установщик.
Жесткий диск разделяют на несколько частей с помощью матера. Для установки Windows 10 рекомендуют выделять не менее 55Гб.
Продолжают процесс установки в соответствии с последовательными шагами мастера.
Более подробно с процессом установки ознакамливаются на официальном сайте.
Виртуализация
Виртуализация – комплекс приложений и программ, которые помогают запускать Виндовс внутри второй. Благодаря такой системе можно с легкостью запустить из macOs Winows.
Для пользователей iSpring больше подходят приложения Parallels или VMware. Благодаря визуализации возможно использование сразу двух платформ (Виндовс открывают отдельно или разворачивают на весь экран).
В отличии от Boot Camp не потребуется разделение жесткого диска, а также со временем установленную Виндовс переносят на другой компьютер или удаляют, как простой файл.
Из-за виртуализации вторая платформа функционирует не так эффективно, так как ресурсы разделяются между 2 установленными платформами. Это удобно, если планируется использование тяжелых приложений, например, iSpring.
Для установки и настройки Windows на mac mini с помощью Parallels потребуется:
Скачать образ iso для дальнейшей установки Windows.
Инсталлируют Parallels Desktop.
С помощью команды «Файл-Создать» запускают виртуалку. Аналогичное действие выполняют с помощью горячих клавиш «Command-N».
С помощью мастера установки инсталлируют новую операционку, выбрав команду «Установить с USB-флеш-накопителя».
По окончании процесса Виндовс будет готова к работе.
Рекомендации для работы с Parallels
При работе с программой будет использоваться только часть ресурсов компьютера. Чтобы продуктивность была выше, в настройках для работы Parallels отводят больше ядер процессора и объема памяти.
На заметку!
При использовании виртуализации, важно обратить на технические требования программы.
Настройка Windows на mac mini ведется на усмотрение самого пользователя. Каждый самостоятельно выбирает, каким образом будут отображаться обе системы. Используют режим Full Screen (по умолчанию чаще всего стоит Coherence).
Retina дисплеи, которые сейчас преобладают на устройствах mac, имеют высокое разрешение. Поэтому значки операционной системы Windows отображаются мелко. Чтобы этого избежать:
В настройках приложения Parallels выбирают команду «Оборудование — Видео».
Устанавливают опцию «Для Renita».
Кликают по рабочему столу и выбирают команду «Разрешение экрана». Среди настроек устанавливают показатели.
Эти манипуляции помогут настроить параметры для комфортной работы.
Boot Camp + Виртуализация
Иногда целесообразно использовать Boot Camp и виртуализацию совместно. Для этого выполняют:
Windows устанавливают на отдельный раздел детского диска с помощью Boot Camp.
Инсталлируют программу виртуализации, например, Parallels.
При запуске виртуальной машины выбирают команду «Использовать Windows через Boot Camp».
На заметку!
Важно соблюдать последовательность установки: сначала Виндовс на отдельный раздел диска, а затем загружать через приложение виртуализации. Если сделать наоборот, то зайти по Windows уже не получится.
Благодаря такой установке, пользователь одновременно пользуется плюсами обоих вариантов:
Windows загружают из среды macOs и используют обе операционки параллельно. Это удобно, когда работают без перезагрузки с легкими программами.
Если нужна работа с энергозатратными приложениями, например, графическими редакторами, то загружают Windows.
На заметку!
Использовать для запуска бесплатное приложение VirtualBox нельзя совместно с Boot Camp.
Существенным минусом сочетания 2 платфор являются сложности, которые возникают при активации ОС и приложений. При каждой загрузке Windows проверяет изменения, произошедшие с оборудованием. И различия между виртуальным и реальным оборудованием будут всегда, поэтому часто будет требоваться активация.
Установка и настройка Windows на mac mini M2 – процедура несложная, с которой справляются самостоятельно. Наличие двух систем позволит избежать неудобств, что пользователь сталкивается во врем использования macOs.
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